Russel Alexander Webb and Ahmadiyyat

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Russel Alexander Webb and Ahmadiyyat

Postby rationalist » 04 May 2011, 20:19

Growing up as an Ahmadi I had heard stories that MGAQ had caused an American to convert..

Does anyone have any specific info about him?? He had correspondance with MGAQ as early as 1887, then he appears to have disappeared..

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Re: Russel Alexander Webb and Ahmadiyyat

Postby rationalist » 04 May 2011, 20:42

I found this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Russell_Webb

"In 1887 Web wrote two letters to Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian. In fact Webb's first clear step toward Islam was expressed in these correspondence. These letters were published then in Mirza Ahmad's book "Shahne e Haqq" page page 372 and 439."

He worked hard propogating Islam in the USA...he was not an Ahamdi!!!!!!

He resigned his post in 1892 and toured India then returned to the U.S. His family stayed in San Francisco until he sent for them.

Settling in New York, he established the Oriental Publishing Company at 1122 Upper Broadway. This company published his writings (including his magnum opus- Islam in America), such as:

Islam in America - contained 70 pages divided into eight chapters namely:
I) Why I Became a Muslim
II) An Outline of Islamic Faith
III) The Five Pillars of Practice
IV) Islam in Its Philosophic Aspect
V) Polygamy and the Purdah
VI) Popular Errors Refuted
VII) The Muslim Defensive Wars
VIII) The American Islamic Propaganda
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Re: Russel Alexander Webb and Ahmadiyyat

Postby rationalist » 04 May 2011, 20:46

Tadhkirah, page 1892

1892

Before the arrival of Mr. Webb in India, the Promised Messiahas saw in a dream that Mr. Webb had come to India and was beating a drum. The interpretation was that he was occupied in a futile endeavour which would not lead to anything; and so it proved.
[Badr, vol. 6, no. 1, March 14, 1907, p. 2]
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Re: Russel Alexander Webb and Ahmadiyyat

Postby FindingsII » 04 May 2011, 20:48

So Mr Webb sent Mental Ghulam Ahmad 2 letters and they tried to claim him as Ahmadi when he wasn't? Yay or nay? Epic fail!!! Despite correspondence with the Chosen One Mental Ghulam Ahmad, he still went and reverted to the 'non true' Islam ie: orthodox, normal, mainstream Islam! Ha ha ha. Ahmadis fail in everything.
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Re: Russel Alexander Webb and Ahmadiyyat

Postby rationalist » 04 May 2011, 20:49

Something must have happened in 1907 which caused MGAQ to write against in Russell Webb...
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Re: Russel Alexander Webb and Ahmadiyyat

Postby FindingsII » 04 May 2011, 20:51

LOOOOL and had he converted to Mental Ghulam Ahmad's sicko religion, the drums would have signified his arrival/fanfare as an Ahmadi. They pick and choose. His dreams were all fake anyway and if they weren't fake they were hallucinations. Crazy man. This is what happened: he refused ahmadiyyat and became a traitor/evil man by reverting to islam. Simples.
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Re: Russel Alexander Webb and Ahmadiyyat

Postby Abu Sayf » 04 May 2011, 20:53

how the hell do you have so many dreams and remember them all anyway?
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Re: Russel Alexander Webb and Ahmadiyyat

Postby rationalist » 04 May 2011, 20:55

when you eat opium and mercury...you have weird dreams...lol
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Re: Russel Alexander Webb and Ahmadiyyat

Postby Abu Sayf » 04 May 2011, 20:57

rationalist wrote:when you eat opium and mercury...you have weird dreams...lol


umm mercury is toxic to consume lol

and ur joking about that, right? lol
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Re: Russel Alexander Webb and Ahmadiyyat

Postby FindingsII » 04 May 2011, 20:58

This whole damn cult is based on dreams (or nightmares to be precise). He was insane...but those that follow him with sane minds have no excuse..least he had one. Remember one of the signs of Qayyamah were that more books would be published and readily available...well he wrote more books than he had dreams and that is saying something!!
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